Citizen Space
425 2nd St
San Francisco, CA
tantek, mtrichardson, will norris, jonathan dugan, ben metcalfe, simon (six apart)
by phone: 8bitkid
The goal of this meeting is to continue the work done at the last meetup, where we will continue the work to design a format for communicating activities performed by users across different sites, and begin to spec out an interoperable protocol for sharing activities between Drupal and WordPress sites.
Scope of the effort...
Based on ATOM
Make use Media Types/MIME
CRUD for verbs?
User-agent problem? (i.e. matching on arbitrary strings)
Activity Types vs templates
facebook sizes... small, medium, large
multiple direct/indirect objects
deduping -- "somebody tweeted this", as well as complete object
dugan: 1 or more actors... 0/1 direct object, 0/1 indirect object
merging same activities across different actors: "chris, job and bob downloaded Transformers, The Matrix and Wedding Planner."
privacy issues with merging activities
err on the side of atomic activities
separate aggregation from data streams that people are using and resharing
data-duplication...
attending events...
activity streams attached to both actors and to objects
templates... would encode verbs/location
separate model from view
actor --> points to profile
direct object --> point back to originating service
permalink to for activities?
call to action... "add your [service name ID]" -- mybloglog
geolocation
best practices -- use microformats
expiry, synchronization?
story sizes... versioning...?
revoking an activity?
XRDS-Simple types for small medium large -- just different types rather than different sizes of the activity...
music, video, blog posts, tweets,
URL template for different representations of an object...
each type specifies the different sizes
action/activity streams for DiSo
subscribing to external type templates
dugan presented activity streams rails plugin to rails meetup...
merging objects/activities...
link-ref; in-reference-to in ATOM... "rel=ref"
an aggregated lifestream feed could be out of scope...
close to real-time web...
fetching passed events...??
...pass on the GUID?
recommendation that people should follow ATOM spec... and that activities must have GUIDs...
there is a type that aggregators can offer like "merged-type"...
Audio recording of the event.